I wrote about this too. The people working in the publishing industry in the US and UK is well over 85% female. No other sector would have such a disparity if it were the other way around, there'd be outcry for more women etc. - https://msolney.substack.com/p/why-do-male-readers-feel-left-behind?r=7hgcb
Brian Niemeier hit on the elements on #3 pretty hard with his recent post on Substack and his blog. This line helps sum up some of what you are getting at:
"Because at the end of the day, the nupagan crowd wants pre-1965 demographics with post-1968 morality. Their vices blind them to the fact that those circumstances are mutually exclusive."
Here's one point or attack where I think Men's Fiction might get a better foothold on writing, especially if you are new to it:
"Write for a 10- to 13-year old boy. Make the language and situations age appropriate for them, regardless if the book is for YA or Adults."
You tag stories to adventure and overcoming obstacles. You incorporate proven morality as an invisible-yet-discoverable foundation in your writing. You don't beat people over the head with it, but rather you show it in the characters' thoughts, actions, consequences, and outcomes. You don't write sex scenes, but you might show light romance or its implication.
Sex scenes don't advance the story, and if you aren't advancing the story, then you are wrong.
Writing for kids is harder than writing for adults, but laying down that restriction will provide constraints that allow you to become a better writer of fiction over time.
Wow, that’s a compelling observation, though it’s hard to blame the invaders for the post-1968 morality. They didn’t bust down the gates to get in—the gates were opened for them from within. However, the same cultural saboteurs who opened us up to invasion are the same degenerates who turned our country away from God.
The female domination of book publishing is not a global issue, however: New York is a city in the United States.
If we look at Asia, people have no compunction about making male-focused entertainment, including in written-word form. Shounen (meaning for boys) is not just a genre of anime in Japan, but of manga, light novels, webnovels, etc. The same applies to Seinen (for young men.)
Ultimately, institutions can be captured irrevocably. Just as a herd of cows can fall sick from Mad Cow disease, to which the only solution is to get rid of them and start with uninfected cows, a local groupthinking complex, such as NY publishing, can develop the unsolvable cancer of institutional capture.
The solution isn't reform, but replacement. Given diseased cows or blighted potatoes, one must throw them away and start with undiseased cows, or unblighted potatoes.
Agreed. CIvilizations outside the West, particularly those which are thriving, are unlikely to have this problem in their own publishing industries. The average Russian bookstore probably resembles an American bookstore from the 1940s—classics, war memoirs, technical non-fiction, pulp/adventure, plus sections for women and children.
The comment you made about men writing butch fem bosses is spot on and one I don’t understand. And yet as I move deeper and deeper into the indie publishing sphere and see the books being put out by male writers that are supposed to be for guys, I’ve noticed that many of those have those same tired kick ass females as their heroines. Why are so many men, even in the indie sphere and who are supposed to be against the over feminization of publishing, write according to the standards that they complain about? And why is it so hard to find fun, rollicking adventure stories about male heroes these days? And I’m asking as a woman who doesn’t want to read about men disguised as women but one who wants to read about real men doing heroic things? I don’t want to explore emotions or feelings or relationships -I want stories with men exploring jungles, conquering new worlds, roaming the next frontier.
The macho chick trope comes out of a female domination fetish. I guess it can manifest in different ways, but the most popular by far is showing women to have greater physical prowess than men. This was a step toward the trans-insanity we've seen in recent years. Whoever is ultimately behind this has gender confusion as a high priority on their agenda.
Personally, I suspect this fetish is so ubiquitous because there are spiritual forces behind it. We can point to a lot of influences that contribute to the popularity of the fetish, but those were orchestrated too, IMO.
The name of the genre doesn't mean women aren't allowed to read it. It simply signifies that the audience is predominantly male. (Amazon is currently perverting what the genre is, but I'm using the definition that's been in place for half a century.)
"Chick-lit" is named as such because of its particular appeal to the female mind. But that term is muddled up now too because the entire traditional publishing agenda is by, for, and about women (with the aforementioned exceptions to include classics, authors who were grandfathered in from before current gatekeeping policies, and LGBT caca).
The issue is that the male mind and the female mind are NOT different genetically. Any difference is caused by culture. (It’s a nature vs. nurture thing.) Writing to promote such differences is nuts. Just write. Create a good story. I think my work appeals to ALL individuals, regardless of gender. Oh, and I’m FEMALE and got pushed into MANDATORY sewing and cooking classes in school. I wanted to take shop. And I’m not the only woman who finds “chicklit” offensive, esp. since the label is usually applied to slop writing.
Slop (and mediocre) writing is what both tradpub and Amazon are pushing. From their perspective it is preferable to allowing forbidden worldviews to influence the masses.
Big time disagree on the male & female mind, though.Some women have more traditionally masculine interests, just as the reverse is true. But there is no doubt men and women are wired differently, with different cognitive processes. And this is regardless of cultural conditioning.
This can be seen at very young ages, before children even recognize the patterns of sex/gender differences. Nobody is conditioning little girls, "Your long-term memory needs to work in a feminine way, and your reasoning needs to follow a feminine progression, and this is how you need to argue."
In fact, for the last few generations, there has been opposite conditioning from the culture: that there are no differences, that gender is just a social construct and it's impossible to define what a woman is. It wasn't at today's blatant in-your-face dosage from the beginning. The cultural saboteurs have gradually cranked up the heat so the frog doesn't jump out of the pot, is all.
I wrote about this too. The people working in the publishing industry in the US and UK is well over 85% female. No other sector would have such a disparity if it were the other way around, there'd be outcry for more women etc. - https://msolney.substack.com/p/why-do-male-readers-feel-left-behind?r=7hgcb
Brian Niemeier hit on the elements on #3 pretty hard with his recent post on Substack and his blog. This line helps sum up some of what you are getting at:
"Because at the end of the day, the nupagan crowd wants pre-1965 demographics with post-1968 morality. Their vices blind them to the fact that those circumstances are mutually exclusive."
Full read here: https://brianniemeier.substack.com/p/you-cant-spell-culture-without-cult
Here's one point or attack where I think Men's Fiction might get a better foothold on writing, especially if you are new to it:
"Write for a 10- to 13-year old boy. Make the language and situations age appropriate for them, regardless if the book is for YA or Adults."
You tag stories to adventure and overcoming obstacles. You incorporate proven morality as an invisible-yet-discoverable foundation in your writing. You don't beat people over the head with it, but rather you show it in the characters' thoughts, actions, consequences, and outcomes. You don't write sex scenes, but you might show light romance or its implication.
Sex scenes don't advance the story, and if you aren't advancing the story, then you are wrong.
Writing for kids is harder than writing for adults, but laying down that restriction will provide constraints that allow you to become a better writer of fiction over time.
Wow, that’s a compelling observation, though it’s hard to blame the invaders for the post-1968 morality. They didn’t bust down the gates to get in—the gates were opened for them from within. However, the same cultural saboteurs who opened us up to invasion are the same degenerates who turned our country away from God.
The female domination of book publishing is not a global issue, however: New York is a city in the United States.
If we look at Asia, people have no compunction about making male-focused entertainment, including in written-word form. Shounen (meaning for boys) is not just a genre of anime in Japan, but of manga, light novels, webnovels, etc. The same applies to Seinen (for young men.)
Ultimately, institutions can be captured irrevocably. Just as a herd of cows can fall sick from Mad Cow disease, to which the only solution is to get rid of them and start with uninfected cows, a local groupthinking complex, such as NY publishing, can develop the unsolvable cancer of institutional capture.
The solution isn't reform, but replacement. Given diseased cows or blighted potatoes, one must throw them away and start with undiseased cows, or unblighted potatoes.
Agreed. CIvilizations outside the West, particularly those which are thriving, are unlikely to have this problem in their own publishing industries. The average Russian bookstore probably resembles an American bookstore from the 1940s—classics, war memoirs, technical non-fiction, pulp/adventure, plus sections for women and children.
The comment you made about men writing butch fem bosses is spot on and one I don’t understand. And yet as I move deeper and deeper into the indie publishing sphere and see the books being put out by male writers that are supposed to be for guys, I’ve noticed that many of those have those same tired kick ass females as their heroines. Why are so many men, even in the indie sphere and who are supposed to be against the over feminization of publishing, write according to the standards that they complain about? And why is it so hard to find fun, rollicking adventure stories about male heroes these days? And I’m asking as a woman who doesn’t want to read about men disguised as women but one who wants to read about real men doing heroic things? I don’t want to explore emotions or feelings or relationships -I want stories with men exploring jungles, conquering new worlds, roaming the next frontier.
For sure. And thanks for weighing in.
The macho chick trope comes out of a female domination fetish. I guess it can manifest in different ways, but the most popular by far is showing women to have greater physical prowess than men. This was a step toward the trans-insanity we've seen in recent years. Whoever is ultimately behind this has gender confusion as a high priority on their agenda.
Personally, I suspect this fetish is so ubiquitous because there are spiritual forces behind it. We can point to a lot of influences that contribute to the popularity of the fetish, but those were orchestrated too, IMO.
Sorry, but dividing fiction by genre is bad enough. Dividing it by gender is nonsensical.
The name of the genre doesn't mean women aren't allowed to read it. It simply signifies that the audience is predominantly male. (Amazon is currently perverting what the genre is, but I'm using the definition that's been in place for half a century.)
"Chick-lit" is named as such because of its particular appeal to the female mind. But that term is muddled up now too because the entire traditional publishing agenda is by, for, and about women (with the aforementioned exceptions to include classics, authors who were grandfathered in from before current gatekeeping policies, and LGBT caca).
The issue is that the male mind and the female mind are NOT different genetically. Any difference is caused by culture. (It’s a nature vs. nurture thing.) Writing to promote such differences is nuts. Just write. Create a good story. I think my work appeals to ALL individuals, regardless of gender. Oh, and I’m FEMALE and got pushed into MANDATORY sewing and cooking classes in school. I wanted to take shop. And I’m not the only woman who finds “chicklit” offensive, esp. since the label is usually applied to slop writing.
Slop (and mediocre) writing is what both tradpub and Amazon are pushing. From their perspective it is preferable to allowing forbidden worldviews to influence the masses.
Big time disagree on the male & female mind, though.Some women have more traditionally masculine interests, just as the reverse is true. But there is no doubt men and women are wired differently, with different cognitive processes. And this is regardless of cultural conditioning.
This can be seen at very young ages, before children even recognize the patterns of sex/gender differences. Nobody is conditioning little girls, "Your long-term memory needs to work in a feminine way, and your reasoning needs to follow a feminine progression, and this is how you need to argue."
In fact, for the last few generations, there has been opposite conditioning from the culture: that there are no differences, that gender is just a social construct and it's impossible to define what a woman is. It wasn't at today's blatant in-your-face dosage from the beginning. The cultural saboteurs have gradually cranked up the heat so the frog doesn't jump out of the pot, is all.