There is evidence that the fallen angels who left their own habitation first appeared in our reality at Mount Hermon (which the Greeks would later transpose to Mount Olympus for their pagan worldbuilding), suggesting there was a dimensional portal there. Scholars believe Hermon was the Mount of Transfiguration, which, if true , would corroborate this conjecture (the disciples saw Jesus speaking with Moses and Elijah there). Also, when Jesus said the gates of hell would not prevail against the Church He would build, we quite naturally assume He was speaking metaphorically. But that's another double entendre. There is a literal cave at the base of Mt. Hermon called "the Gates of Hell" and Jesus was probably standing right in front of it when speaking to His disciples.
So what the global community under Nimrod was building was not a tower reaching into space (always a silly explanation IMO) but possibly an artificial Mt. Hermon with its own "god gate" or "stargate," if you will--a dimensional portal, through which the fallen angels or pagan gods could directly manifest in man's 4 dimensions.
How did you like it? I let a relative borrow it years ago and never got it back, hence never got to finish it.
If interested, there’s a fantasy novel called Gods & Proxies which should be at 99 cents for the Based Book Sale, which tells the story of Joshua’s conquest of Canaan, leaning heavily on the work of Heiser, Missler, and others. Author’s name rhymes with Michael Heiser (Kayser).
Well, the first half of the book was great. I learned a ton, especially about the Angel of the Lord and all the times he shows up. But the second half of the book, Heiser relies on apocrypha so heavily that he actually gets trapped by his own intellect. Especially the thing about "there's many Satans, but what does Jesus mean when he talks about Satan's kingdom divided against itself?" He puts the book of Enoch ahead of the Bible and winds up all bent into pretzels trying to make the Bible align with it. I finished the book somewhat disgusted. But that first half was so good!
Respectfully, Heiser went out of his way not to put anything else ahead of scripture. The apocrypha, especially the first part of Enoch, give important context to scripture, which Moses and other writers assumed their readers would already have.
It is my conviction that the best description of reality is that it is a story and we tell stories because, living in reality, it is impossible to escape its pattern. Everything conforms to this. All is a story, fractally, all the way down, all the way up. It is not possible to break this.
Tolkien addresses this in Silmarillion. The world is a song (a story of another form). Melkor’s pride causes him to become discordant. But this doesn’t break the symphony. Iluvatsr rewrites the music so that Melkor’s strain becomes harmonious.
It is not possible to (ultimately) be discordant with the pattern of creation. All resonates in some way with the truth. Even the discordance is unsuccessful. It is made by miracle, harmonious.
Yes! Even the Matzerath (what the Zodiac was copied/corrupted from) was not some silly predictive model based on what stars were where when you were born, but if you knew the names of the constellations, they told you many micro-stories within one huge macro-story.
If you look up the meanings of the Hebrew names in Genesis, that first geneology tells the story of creation, man's fall, and the redemption via the Messiah.
When it comes to mythology, so many cultures across time and geography, with no mutual contact during its formation, have such similarities that it's a cinch they all originate from a common source, passed down orally via generational "telephone" game.
There's discoveries I could share about the Arthurian tales, but looks like interest is not very high in these kinds of posts. That or it's just the Thought Police Algorithms still throttling them. Whatever. Results are the same.
Add "serious read of bible" to the todo list...
Most rewarding endeavor ever.
Babel means god gate??? That is so creepy, I never knew that! Thanks for this article, it was super interesting.
Thanks, KM.
There is evidence that the fallen angels who left their own habitation first appeared in our reality at Mount Hermon (which the Greeks would later transpose to Mount Olympus for their pagan worldbuilding), suggesting there was a dimensional portal there. Scholars believe Hermon was the Mount of Transfiguration, which, if true , would corroborate this conjecture (the disciples saw Jesus speaking with Moses and Elijah there). Also, when Jesus said the gates of hell would not prevail against the Church He would build, we quite naturally assume He was speaking metaphorically. But that's another double entendre. There is a literal cave at the base of Mt. Hermon called "the Gates of Hell" and Jesus was probably standing right in front of it when speaking to His disciples.
So what the global community under Nimrod was building was not a tower reaching into space (always a silly explanation IMO) but possibly an artificial Mt. Hermon with its own "god gate" or "stargate," if you will--a dimensional portal, through which the fallen angels or pagan gods could directly manifest in man's 4 dimensions.
Mmm, smells like Michael Heiser! I just finished reading Unseen Realms. :-)
How did you like it? I let a relative borrow it years ago and never got it back, hence never got to finish it.
If interested, there’s a fantasy novel called Gods & Proxies which should be at 99 cents for the Based Book Sale, which tells the story of Joshua’s conquest of Canaan, leaning heavily on the work of Heiser, Missler, and others. Author’s name rhymes with Michael Heiser (Kayser).
Well, the first half of the book was great. I learned a ton, especially about the Angel of the Lord and all the times he shows up. But the second half of the book, Heiser relies on apocrypha so heavily that he actually gets trapped by his own intellect. Especially the thing about "there's many Satans, but what does Jesus mean when he talks about Satan's kingdom divided against itself?" He puts the book of Enoch ahead of the Bible and winds up all bent into pretzels trying to make the Bible align with it. I finished the book somewhat disgusted. But that first half was so good!
Hmm. That’s a shame.
I find Jasher, Jubilees, and about a chapter of Enoch helpful, but I understand why they are not canon.
Respectfully, Heiser went out of his way not to put anything else ahead of scripture. The apocrypha, especially the first part of Enoch, give important context to scripture, which Moses and other writers assumed their readers would already have.
It is my conviction that the best description of reality is that it is a story and we tell stories because, living in reality, it is impossible to escape its pattern. Everything conforms to this. All is a story, fractally, all the way down, all the way up. It is not possible to break this.
Tolkien addresses this in Silmarillion. The world is a song (a story of another form). Melkor’s pride causes him to become discordant. But this doesn’t break the symphony. Iluvatsr rewrites the music so that Melkor’s strain becomes harmonious.
It is not possible to (ultimately) be discordant with the pattern of creation. All resonates in some way with the truth. Even the discordance is unsuccessful. It is made by miracle, harmonious.
Yes! Even the Matzerath (what the Zodiac was copied/corrupted from) was not some silly predictive model based on what stars were where when you were born, but if you knew the names of the constellations, they told you many micro-stories within one huge macro-story.
If you look up the meanings of the Hebrew names in Genesis, that first geneology tells the story of creation, man's fall, and the redemption via the Messiah.
When it comes to mythology, so many cultures across time and geography, with no mutual contact during its formation, have such similarities that it's a cinch they all originate from a common source, passed down orally via generational "telephone" game.
There's discoveries I could share about the Arthurian tales, but looks like interest is not very high in these kinds of posts. That or it's just the Thought Police Algorithms still throttling them. Whatever. Results are the same.
That's the most beautiful picture of WW I've ever seen, where'd you find it?
Can’t remember, but here’s your own copy.
Lmao merci